government proposal

[Admin]

a bout 2 months back a certian Tiji (imaculate) said hey bug check this out...(read the text below) and all we really need to do is change the names of the ranks to better suit our realm, so read on if you would and lets here some input, after all this is OUR realm so lets make it what WE want it to be

Helot- 1st rank- all newcomers start here

no formal requirements other than a basic understanding of the rules and weapon use.
no voting rights

=advancement requirements= (all these must always be with different opponents for each dual requirement and must happen at practice)
-fighting name & web bio
-read & understand the dagorhir rule book
-have your own garb that passes the 10 foot rule
-win 2 duals any weapon style of your choice equally armed with equal or higher ranking opponent
-gain a sponsor to advance from 1 person of higher rank (pretty much have somebody of a specified higher rank, like an ephor, vouch for you)
-attend 5 practices

*challenge options to bypass 5 practice wait=
- hit placement test (pretty much know where to call hits on YOURSELF)
- win 3 single blue duals with different opponents



Hoplite- 2nd rank- the core militia

those that have passed the helot advancement requirements and have deemed themselves worthy to fight among our true ranks and be able to vote

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule

=bonus=
-equal voting rights
-realm belt flag (optional $)
-rank insignia (optional $)

=advancement requirements=
-own a weapon of choice (excluding rocks & daggers)
-own a choice of basic armor (like arms legs or body)... or a shield
-be able to herald battles /pass weapons and call battles
-win 4 duals any weapon style you choose, equally armed with equal or higher ranking opponents
-win 3 duals of your choice, sword and board, pole arm green, or red. any combination of these with 1 lesser 2 equally ranked opponent
-win 1 dual any weapon style you choose with a higher ranking opponent
-win 1 2 on 1 field skirmish dual with any weapons against equally ranked opponents
-can afford or can make to specifications the Spartiatite Javelin ($) (short spear/javelin with realm colored designs)
- attend 5 more practices
-2/3rds vote

*challenge options to bypass 5 practice wait=
-2 on 1 single blue with equally ranked opponents
-2 sword and board or red duals with 1 equal & 1 higher ranking opponent
-1 dual 2 on 1 any style you choose equally armed with 1 equal & 1 higher ranked opponent



Spartiatite- 3rd rank- the professional soldier

those that have passed the hoplite advancement requirements and become the elite of our core military forces

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule
-realm belt flag
-weapon of choice
-choice of basic armor (like arms legs or body)... or a shield

=bonus=
-rank insignia upgrade ($)
-Spartiatite Javelin ($)

=advancement requirements=
- own a loaner weapon (no rocks or daggers)
- own arm,leg & or body armor and a shield
-obtain a new fighting style and own the weapons (buy or make a weapon style your new to or don't usually use)
-win 8 duals any weapon style your opponent chooses, equally armed against any rank with different opponents
-win 4 duals of your choice, sword and board, pole arm green, or red. any combination of these against equal or higher rank
-win 2 duals 2 on 1 any style you choose equally armed against any ranks
-win 1 3 on 1 single weapon or sword and board field skirmish
-perform a disarm to any opponent at practice of rank 2 or higher
-perform 3 legal head shots with projectile weapons to 3 different opponents
-can afford or can make to specifications the Basileis bodyguard sword ($) (stabbing green/blue short sword with realm colored designs)
-attend 5 mandatory practices
-2/3rds vote

*no challenge options=
all spartiatites wishing to advance to hippeis must attend a minimum total of 7 practices



Hippeis- 4th rank- the Basileis' Bodyguards

those that have passed the spartiatite advancement requirements and are also known as realm squires, the best we have to protect the Basileis

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule
-realm belt flag
-personal weaponry
-arm,leg & or body armor
-personal shield
-loaner weapon
-spartiatite javelin

=bonus=
-rank insignia upgrade ($)
-Basileis bodyguard sword ($)

=advancement requirements=
-bring 2 new people to practice
-hand out or post x amount of realm flyers
-help a lower ranked soldier build a weapon
-obtain another piece of loaner equipment whether shield weapon or armor
-obtain another new fighting style and own the weapons
-scout out and plan one realm mini event (like a raid or a weekend camp out)
-bring realm food or drink to 3 practices (can be anything from peanuts to water as long as there is enough for all)
-herald 10 battles
-run 5 separate weapons checks
-obtain a 2nd set of better looking garb
-customize your armor
-customize your weaponry & shield
-have personal heraldry
-upgrade web bio personal story information
-win duals with every active member of the realm, your choice of any weapons and gear (active members attend once a month with some leeway)
-be on the winning team of 8 unit battles (2 unit battles a practice only for this we can have more than 2 a practice but only the 1st 2 count)
-have a kill count of 10 at 1 practice
-can afford or make to specifications the Ephor cloak (a hooded cape maybe with realm symbol on it somewhere)
-attend 5 more mandatory practices
-2/3rds vote

Elite Hippeis are those who have completed all advancement requirements and are willing to serve as an Ephor but, await an election opening

* challenge options= Elite Hippeis eligible for advancement may challenge an existing Ephor who has served more than 1 month. a realm vote is taken to allow the challenge battle to happen. challenge battle includes either a 1on1 2on2 3on3 or 4on4 field skirmish depending on the choice of the Ephor being challenged. challenged Ephor chooses equal fighting gear and size of battle. If the challenged Ephor is defeated they will hand over their position to the Elite Hippeis that has defeated them.(the vote allowing the battle serves as the actual vote into office for the winner)



Ephor-5th rank- the 5 Advisers

those that have passed the hippeis advancement requirements and are willing to serve in 1 of 5 realm offices
and receive a 2/3rds vote for that individual office earning in his right to be recognized as an Adviser to the Basileis.
1-3 month term (only first month is safe from challenge of an Elite Hippeis)
2 consecutive term limit

1- Realm Recruiter - leads realm recruitment, Recruitment Adviser.
2- Quartermaster - realm foam smith, Weaponry Adviser.
3- Event organizer - head of realm practice & event organization, Event Adviser.
4- Lead Herald - head weapons checker & herald organizer, Herald Adviser.
5- Armorer - realm armor master, Armoring Adviser.

=bonus=
-rank insignia upgrade
-Ephor cloak

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & upgraded web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule
-custom garb
--realm belt flag
-personalized weaponry
-custom arm,leg & or body armor
-personalized shield
-loaner weaponry
-Spartiatite javelin
-Basileis bodyguard sword

=advancement requirements=
-full helmet (our leader can't be dying from arrows to the face/head)
-fully tanked custom suit of armor (arms,legs & body)
-be on the winning team of 8 more unit battles
-raise an army of at least 4 to challenge the throne
-perform dagger kills on 3 separate Ephors
-defeat 3 out of 4 Ephors in a row any weapons styles
-attend 3 more mandatory practices
-2/3rds vote

*combat challenge!
BASILEIS BATTLE! (only aloud once a current kings term is finished or terminated)
winner to be Basileis and the looser to be 2nd in command


Basileis- Top Rank- KING The commender and chief of our troops and an official Knight of Fugl Brenna!
6 month term, 2 consecutive term limit
(responsible for your own upgrades)
(may still serve in an Ephor office if necessary)

=Bonus=
YOU NOW LEAD OUR REALMS ARMY INTO BATTLE
-Rank Insignia Upgrade
-Basileis' club (gold colored blue weapon easily recognizable as the leaders)
-Ephor cloak upgraded to Basileis cloak (add custom upgrades)
-Spartiatite javelin upgraded to Basileis javelin (custom design)
-receive a Realm Knights Chain aka Basileis chain (a realm colored knights chain mail necklace to always remain with the current king... easy to make)

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & upgraded web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule
-custom garb
-realm belt flag
-personalized weaponry
-fully tanked custom arm,leg & body armor
-custom full helmet
-personalized shield
-loaner weaponry
-Basileis bodyguard sword
-Basileis javelin
-Basileis cloak
-Basileis club
-Basileis chain

[Scios]

Yeah, I really like the set up. Giving people goals to shoot for is always a good idea and will hopefully help members stick. I do think we need to change things up a little bit from what the Fugl Brenna uses, names as mentioned before, but it would be easy to go step by step to make it more clear for new people. My main question is who starts out where or do we start out at the bottom and work our way up.

[fang-ravencroft]

i think it would be more fair to all start at the bottom, giving everyone equal chance from the get go. slightly un-fair that some of us are more experienced, but i think that just means the more experienced ones would move up the ranks faster.

[Scios]

Yeah that's true, looks like no one is voting for a while. Also a small loophole exists in that we need a sponsor who is higher rank to move up the ranking system.

[Bugarasu]

the way i was told is every 1 starts from the bottem, after like 3 practices or 2 dual wins you can rank up to 2, and your a "citicin" i think the main thing we need to work on is getting this set up for us like the names of ranks, and things we fell like we need to change , and get every 1 to go with this proposal, , so lets try to get all of our active members up on here so we can get every 1s opinion about this , or maybee set up a meeting, where we can all get together and talk about this irl

[Magnus]

"-read & understand the dagorhir rule book"

I am assuming that for those not attending dag events that knowing the belegarth rules will cover this?

[fang-ravencroft]

yea, the difference in rules are only slight in variation to my knowledge anyways.

[TIJI]

sorry i been busy but i had the day off and this is what i came up with
everyone starts at the bottom equally but, i propose 5 temporary kings be placed in office until the spots are filled the hard way to cover our sponsors and higher rank challenges we can have a temp emperor too if we want. i want all this to be voted on regardless so tell me what you think about the changes and be honest and open lets make this work for all of us.



Refugee/ Grunt- 1st rank- all newcomers start here

no formal requirements other than a basic understanding of the rules and weapon use.
no voting rights

=advancement requirements= (all these must always be with different opponents for each dual requirement and must happen at practice)
-fighting name & web bio
-read & understand the belegarth & dagorhir rule books
-have your own garb that passes the 10 foot rule
-win 2 duals any weapon style of your choice equally armed with equal or higher ranking opponent
-gain a sponsor to advance from 1 person of higher rank (pretty much have somebody of a specified higher rank, like a King, vouch for you)
-attend 5 practices

*challenge options to bypass 5 practice wait=
- hit placement test (pretty much know where to call hits on YOURSELF)
- win 3 single blue duals with different opponents



Citizen- 2nd rank- the core militia

those that have passed the Refugee advancement requirements and have deemed themselves worthy to fight among our true ranks and now have the right to vote.

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule

=bonus=
-equal voting rights
-realm belt flag (optional $)
-rank insignia (optional $)

=advancement requirements=
-own a weapon of choice (excluding rocks & daggers)
-own a choice of basic armor (like arms legs or body)... or a shield
-be able to herald battles /pass weapons and call battles
-win 4 duals any weapon style you choose, equally armed with equal or higher ranking opponents
-win 4 duals of your choice, sword and board, pole arm green, or red. any combination of these with 1 lesser 2 equal and 1 higher ranked opponent
-win 1 dual any weapon style you choose with a higher ranking opponent
-win a 2 on 1 field skirmish dual with any weapons against equally ranked opponents
-can afford or can make to specifications the Northlands Javelin ($) (short spear/javelin with realm colored designs)
- attend 5 more practices
-2/3rds vote

*challenge options to bypass 5 practice wait=
-2 on 1 single blue with equally ranked opponents
-2 sword and board or red duals with 1 equal & 1 higher ranking opponent
-1 dual 2 on 1 any style you choose equally armed with 1 equal & 1 higher ranked opponent



Soldier- 3rd rank- the professional warrior

those that have passed the Citizen advancement requirements and have become our core military forces

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule
-realm belt flag
-weapon of choice
-choice of basic armor (like arms legs or body)... or a shield

=bonus=
-rank insignia upgrade ($)
-Northlands Javelin ($)
-class placement: choose 1 of 3 specific fighting style classes to learn to excel at.

1-Brigadier/ Line Fighters (tanked up front liners & heavy shield fighters)
2-Officer/ Support fighters (heavy pole arms, reds & archers)
3-Raider/ Flankers ( light mobile spears & reds, light shield fighters & running assassins)

=advancement requirements=
- own a loaner weapon (no rocks or daggers)
- own arm,leg & or body armor and a shield
-obtain a new fighting style in your class and own the weapons (buy or make a weapon style in your class your new to or don't usually use)
-win 8 duals any weapon style your opponent chooses, equally armed against any rank with different opponents
-win 4 duals of your choice, sword and board, pole arm green, or red. any combination of these against equal or higher rank
-win 2 duals 2 on 1 any style you choose equally armed against any ranks
-win 1 3 on 1 single weapon or sword and board field skirmish
-perform a disarm to any opponent at practice of rank 2 or higher
-perform 5 legal head shots with projectile weapons to 5 different opponents in one practice
-can afford or can make to specifications the Imperial Guard sword ($) (stabbing green/blue short sword with realm colored designs)
*-attend 10 mandatory practices
-2/3rds vote

*no challenge options=
all Soldiers wishing to advance to Imperial Guard must attend a minimum total of 12 practices



Imperial Guard- 4th rank- the Emperor's Bodyguards

those that have passed the Soldier advancement requirements and are also known as realm squires, the best we have to protect the Emperor

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule
-realm belt flag
-personal weaponry
-arm,leg & or body armor
-personal shield
-loaner weapon
-Northlands javelin

=bonus=
-rank insignia upgrade ($)
-Imperial Guard sword ($)
*-optional cross class

=advancement requirements=
-bring 2 new people to practice
-hand out or post x amount of realm flyers
-help a lower ranked soldier build a weapon
-obtain another piece of loaner equipment whether shield weapon or armor
*-obtain another new fighting style and own the weapons in any class
-scout out and plan one realm mini event (like a raid or a weekend camp out)
-bring realm food or drink to 3 practices (can be anything from peanuts to water as long as there is enough for all)
-herald 10 battles
-run 5 separate weapons checks
-obtain a 2nd set of better looking garb
-customize your armor
-customize your weaponry & shield
-have personal heraldry
-upgrade web bio personal story information
-win duals with every active member of the realm, your choice of any weapons and gear (active members attend once a month with some leeway)
-be on the winning team of 8 unit battles (2 unit battles a practice only for this we can have more than 2 a practice but only the 1st 2 count)
-have a kill count of 25 at 1 practice
-can afford or make to specifications the Northland King cloak (a hooded cape maybe with realm symbol on it somewhere)
-attend 8 more mandatory practices
-2/3rds vote

Immortals are those who have completed all advancement requirements and are willing to serve as a King but, await an election opening

* challenge options= Immortals eligible for advancement may challenge an existing King who has served more than 1 month. a realm vote is taken to allow the challenge battle to happen. challenge battle includes either a 1on1 2on2 3on3 or 4on4 field skirmish depending on the choice of the King being challenged. the challenged King chooses equal fighting gear and size of battle. If the challenged King is defeated they will hand over their position to the Immortal that has defeated them.(the vote allowing the battle serves as the actual vote into office for the winner)


King-5th rank- the 5 Advisers

those that have passed the Imperial Guard advancement requirements and are willing to serve in 1 of 5 realm offices
and receive a 2/3rds vote for that individual office earning in his right to be recognized as an Adviser to the Emperor.
1-3 month term (only first month is safe from challenge of an Immortal)
2 consecutive term limit

1- Realm Recruiter - leads realm recruitment, Recruitment Adviser.
2- Quartermaster - realm foam smith, Weaponry Adviser.
3- Event organizer - head of realm practice & event organization, Event Adviser.
4- Lead Herald - head weapons checker & herald organizer, Herald Adviser.
5- Armorer - realm armor master, Armoring Adviser.

=bonus=
-rank insignia upgrade
-Northlands King cloak

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & upgraded web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule
-custom garb
--realm belt flag
-personalized weaponry
-custom arm,leg & or body armor
-personalized shield
-loaner weaponry
-Northlands javelin
-Imperial Guard sword

=advancement requirements=
-full helmet (our leader can't be dying from arrows to the face/head)
-fully tanked custom suit of armor (arms,legs & body)
-be on the winning team of 8 more unit battles
-raise an army of at least 4 to challenge the throne
-perform dagger kills on 3 separate Kings in one practice
-defeat 3 out of 4 Kings in a row any weapons styles
-attend 5 more mandatory practices
-2/3rds vote

*combat challenge!
Crown War! (only aloud once a current Emperor's term is finished or terminated)
winner to be Emperor and the looser to be 2nd in command either taking up the Kings advisory position or returning to the Immortals


Emperor- Top Rank- KING The commander-in-chief of our troops and an official Knight of the Kingdom of Northlands!
6 month term, 2 consecutive term limit
(responsible for your own upgrades)
(may still serve in an King's office if necessary)

=Bonus=
YOU NOW LEAD OUR REALMS ARMY INTO BATTLE
-Rank Insignia Upgrade
-Imperial Scepter (gold colored blue weapon easily recognizable as the leaders)
-King cloak upgraded to Imperial cloak (add custom upgrades)
-Northland javelin upgraded to Imperial javelin (custom design)
-receive a Realm Knights Chain aka Imperial chain (a realm colored knights chain mail necklace to always remain with the current king)

=owned equipment=
-fighting name & upgraded web bio
-garb that passes 10 foot rule
-custom garb
-realm belt flag
-personalized weaponry
-fully tanked custom arm,leg & body armor
-custom full helmet
-personalized shield
-loaner weaponry
-Imperial sword
-Imperial javelin
-Imperial cloak
-Imperial scepter
-Imperial chain

[Scios]

Looks good to me.

[fang-ravencroft]

I agree with Scios, looks good! I just gotta get to rank three, running assassin, don't care about much else but being a flanker. ^-^

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